tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post6273828031733849707..comments2023-10-20T02:08:39.524-07:00Comments on Atheism: Proving The Negative: Do you know what you believe about God and why? or Is the Genetic Fallacy a Fallacy?Matt McCormickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17071078570021986664noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-34164885969595545902011-03-04T01:50:09.661-08:002011-03-04T01:50:09.661-08:00Great post, would you please cite sources for thos...Great post, would you please cite sources for those studies?<br />Thanks!Gatogreensleeveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04422843766695177998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-44253638054040117092011-02-18T19:05:35.825-08:002011-02-18T19:05:35.825-08:00Chris wrote: Either there is a God or there isn...Chris wrote: <i>Either there is a God or there isn't. One view HAS to be right.</i><br /><br />Hold on buddy - I think you should provide us with the supposed attributes of your lordy and the best piece of evidence you rely on to support his/her/its existence.<br /><br />The reason why I ask you this question is because: <i>The concept of God is so ill conceived that it only leads us to a form of theological non-cognitivism (e.g., ignosticism). Ignosticism is the position that all current definitions and conceptualizations of god are so multifarious, so habitually obscure, or so incomprehensible as to be impenetrable to human understanding as so no real knowledge can be had with regard to god’s true nature.</i> Advocatus Atheist, "The Implications of Ignosticism" [Internet] Hiroshima: Tristan Vick. [December 20, 2010] Available from: http://advocatusatheist.blogspot.com/2010/12/implications-of-ignosticism.html <br /><br />I once knew a girl who had "Hey-Zeus" tattooed on her butt but I don't think that's what you're referring to.The Atheist Missionaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07191035196328725888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-52057857401026448632011-02-17T22:21:16.393-08:002011-02-17T22:21:16.393-08:00Well my issue is fairly simple.
Either there is a...Well my issue is fairly simple.<br /><br />Either there is a God or there isn't. One view HAS to be right.<br /><br />Yet, your post, to me, suggests that we can't trust anyone's reasoning for believing in either of the two options.<br /><br />How does this, any, discussion move further along then?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10284597561755652662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-404270452845275872011-02-17T21:09:35.549-08:002011-02-17T21:09:35.549-08:00Folks, in general, you have zero chance of convinc...Folks, in general, you have zero chance of convincing anyone of something if you don't write intelligible, clear, grammatical sentences. If I read a bunch of rambling sentence fragments or thoughts that don't support point, I don't really have the interest to invest the energy to try to figure out what point you're stumbling around.Matt McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071078570021986664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-38699259712112381822011-02-17T19:10:40.574-08:002011-02-17T19:10:40.574-08:00Findings from psychological research have pragmati...Findings from psychological research have pragmatic implications rather than that of philosophy.<br /><br />You use such findings for marketing, fighting crime, designing work place environments etc.<br /><br />You cannot answer the question of God through its findings....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-62215244948846620232011-02-17T19:05:25.810-08:002011-02-17T19:05:25.810-08:00Matt,
It doesn't help your case to show that ...Matt,<br /><br />It doesn't help your case to show that human testimony is flawed. After all the many laboratory findings rely on human testimony of such and such occurred. In fact your blog post uses a study that conducted polling of students....<br /><br />So if human testimony is....<br /><br />I just don't think you understand the implications of psychological research and its inability to answer philosophical questions.<br /><br />Go to the chair of Sac State department Matt and ask your question about God or even rely the alleged evidence you think you have against him. I bet you'll get "well that is a philosophical question"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-48487669106969285472011-02-17T14:35:23.814-08:002011-02-17T14:35:23.814-08:00So given, if I am understanding this right, that w...So given, if I am understanding this right, that we are all on the same level - we can't trust either of us to our beliefs - where does that leave us?<br /><br />Where do we go from there?<br /><br />Because if neither of us can be trusted with our beliefs...<br /><br />(correct me if I'm interpreting you wrong)Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10284597561755652662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-74128546383151656262011-02-17T07:51:36.273-08:002011-02-17T07:51:36.273-08:00Anon, you're confused about what's being a...Anon, you're confused about what's being argued. I'm not contending that we do make these mistakes, therefore we should make them. I'm arguing that we cannot trust people's self reporting about what they believe and why.Matt McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071078570021986664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-53683469090978074392011-02-16T14:35:34.959-08:002011-02-16T14:35:34.959-08:00Matt,
The is-ought problem is present in your arg...Matt,<br /><br />The is-ought problem is present in your argument.<br /><br />You would have trouble convincing us that what humans do is what they ought to from study findings.<br /><br />And you would also have trouble making a case that what humans are doing is what is correct<br /><br />Just read the many social Psychology studies about conformity etc. Do these studies give us a basis for answering philosophical questions? Not likely. But they do give us insight on how to market our next product or influence humans.<br /><br />Be careful how you interpret the findings Matt I dont think they support your philosopshical positions that well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-13696289865539522922011-02-14T14:36:33.642-08:002011-02-14T14:36:33.642-08:00A dumb question: Could you not say the same for a...A dumb question: Could you not say the same for atheism?<br /><br />As I read through it, I would say yes...which would mean what?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10284597561755652662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-63579681790431166362011-02-13T18:13:28.647-08:002011-02-13T18:13:28.647-08:00I treat religious beliefs the same as I treat hall...I treat religious beliefs the same as I treat hallucinations and delusions -- their origins are all based in mental faults or colossal misunderstandings. If that is the genetic fallacy, all I can say is "oops, but I don't care."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8716347331682132223.post-48418645102902476382011-02-13T00:12:31.005-08:002011-02-13T00:12:31.005-08:00Never have any contact with the outside world is a...Never have any contact with the outside world is a bit of an overstatement. The tribes choose to be isolated and decline to be "contacted" by the local government <a href="http://blogs.plos.org/neuroanthropology/2011/02/09/%E2%80%98the-last-free-people-on-the-planet%E2%80%99/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+plos/blogs/neuroanthropology+(Blogs+-+Neuroanthropology)" rel="nofollow">(link)</a>. The humane thing to do is to respect their right to stay isolated, and to stop the illegal loggers and oil drillers that are stealing the land and killing the natives.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12896035196461484737noreply@blogger.com